Again, I must respectfully disagree. Please correct me if I'm misunderstanding. But the Trinitarian belief system advocates that the Father is God and that the Son is God and that the Holy Spirit is God, right? And believers in the trinity worship THEM, right? Then I would have to submit to you that if this is the case, then Trinitarians are the ones that are thus worshipping THREE Deities. I worship the "one true God" who Jesus Christ Himself has said is the Father.

My immediate response would be, “Don’t you then worship Christ? For the Bible plainly and forcefully says there is ONLY ONE GOD AND HIM ALONE ARE WE TO SERVE, {or worship}
Matt. 12.30,32
“And you are to love the Lord (KURIOS) thy God (DEITY) with all your heart,
and with all your soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength:
this is the first commandment.
For there is one God; (DEITY) and there is none other but He:”

1 Corinthians 8:4,5
There is no other God but One. For even if there are so called gods,
whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords) us there is ONE GOD;

These verses plainly say we are to worship ONLY the ONE and that there is no other gods to be worshipped-- no not even in heaven.

But then further down I do see that the “anti-Trinitarian” has tried to answer that question. And I appreciate him taking the time and effort to try and explain this.

He writes:
Hebrews 1:6 And again, when he brings in the first begotten into the world, he said, And let all the angels of God worship him. …..Verse 5 gives us a glimpse of that precious moment before the creation when God brought forth, or birthed, or generated His Son…….
So, yes, Christ is God, by REASON OF HIS RELATIONSHIP TO THE FATHER. And yes, Christ is to be worshipped, for that is the WILL OF THE FATHER! God (the Father) is, as scripture states - "All in All".
John 3:35 - "The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand."
Therefore, worshipping the Son as well as the Father is not worshipping a multiplicity of gods, it is in actual fact the SUPREME act of worship to the ONE TRUE God, who is the Father, to render worship to His only begotten Son - for that is the Father's will. And ultimately, in doing the Father's will, we are WORSHIPPING THE ONE TRUE GOD who is the Father……

John 5:23 - "That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him."
….worshipping the Son is an act of worship to the Father, who, according to Jesus (and rightly so) is the ONE TRUE God. And we are commanded to worship the ONE TRUE God - as per commandment---

So if I understand this correctly you are saying God “pro-created” Christ, and even though Christ is not God, yet because of his “bloodline” he is “a god” by inheritance. Therefore it is the will of God that we worship Christ, yet even though we are to worship Christ, we are not really worshipping Christ, but worshipping the Father who commanded it.

Now, I’m afraid that doesn’t really make sense. For why would we then have the command that we are to WORSHIP ONLY GOD and Him alone?

Matt. 4.9,10
[Satan] said unto [Christ] …fall down and worship me. Then said Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shall you serve.

Is God contradicting Himself-- saying we are to worship ONLY HIM, if this means the Father ALONE is God, that He alone is the ONLY manifestation of the TRUE Godhead, and that even when we hear of “another god in heaven or on earth” (1 Cor. 8:5) we know it is not the true God
and then this same God, who commands us to worship ONLY HIM through all ages, also commands His creatures to worship Christ? A supposedly "lesser, pro-created God."

No, no-- that is not the way it is.

Now the explanation, that worshipping the Son is an act of worship to Father, I agree with fully. And the reason the act of worshipping the Son is an act of worship to the Father is because they are ONE GOD.

John 14:7-10
If you had known me, you should have known my Father also: and from henceforth you know him, and have seen him.
Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet have you not known me, Philip? he that has seen me has seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father? Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me?

John 10.30
I and my Father are one.

The truth of the matter is that BOTH BELIEFS presenting their viewpoints in these posts, believe in worshipping the Father and the Son. BUT:

1. One side says Christ was pro-created, --that God the father gave birth and generated a literal son. A Son, who looked like Him, and upon whom He bequeathed some of the honours of godhood.

2. I believe that God as an eternal Being, manifested in three persons; Father, Son and Holy Spirit. All of one substance, co-eternal, co-equal-- one God yet three persons.

Here I strongly disagree. It is our understanding of the Trinity that says GOD IS ONE GOD, (three personages) but one in unity, substance, character, purpose, --the Father in the Son, the Son in the Father, the Spirit in both, yet they are three personages. The Father is revealed as the head, the Son takes on the form of the created beings, to manifest God onto them, the Spirit works upon the hearts and souls.

But those who oppose our belief say, God the Father is the ONLY ONE GOD, then God gave birth to a son, and because of bloodlines, this Son is also to be worshipped, but he is not the true God.

Now please-- which of these is pagan? Paganism is where gods give birth to generate other gods. I’ve already given examples of the Egyptian gods-- then there’s the Canaanite gods-- Baal is supposedly the son of Dagon--- then there are the female deities-- Astroth etc. -- all those pagan religions had some “supreme god” in their hierarchy, and the rest were wives, husbands, children -- there were many derived, “birthed” gods, who were acknowledged as gods because of their “blood line”.

Do you believe that acknowledging Christ as GOD is falling under the category of the “gods many” and “lords many”? In another post you called it “doctrines of demons”.

Now what is the doctrine of the Demons--

It was Lucifer’s big thing in heaven-- just like these arguments, Lucifer viewed Christ as a “lesser” Being from God the Father. Why?
Because Christ veils His glory and mingled freely with the angels. He didn’t appear that much different from the angels.
Yet: “Christ was above all. He was the commander of all Heaven. He imparted to the angelic family the high commands of His Father. (3SG 36)
He was God manifested, the ONE who mingled with them, even in heaven where the angels could see the throne of God.

“To dispute the supremacy of the Son of God, thus impeaching the wisdom and love of the Creator, had become the purpose of this prince of angels.” (PP 36)

So was Lucifer right when he said God was wrong in asking the angels to look to Christ as their LORD, as well as to God the Father?

Yes, it is by knowing Christ that we know God, Christ is the manifestation of Godhead--
He was sent to reveal God. He is God manifested. By KNOWING CHRIST, we know God. Yes, Christ is praying to God the Father because He is the SON of MAN come to earth to reveal God! He takes no glory to Himself. Just as God the Father says, this is MY SON (meaning He is no ordinary man-- He came forth from the Father’s “bosom” into the world-- He is Divine, though clothed in humanity-- LISTEN TO HIM! (Matt. 17:5)

THERE IS BUT ONE DIETY-- ONE GOD, in three personages.

John 8.19
Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also.

John 14.7
If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him, he that hath seen me hath seen the Father

The anti-trinitarian writes Well, I don't know about you - but according to the above trinitarian rendition I now see FOUR gods there. We have 1.) God the Father, 2.) God the Son, 3.) God the Spirit, and 4.) Jesus Christ. But deity number 4 is actually deity number 2. So does that make deity number 2 a "bianity" and a subset of the trinity??? Then if trinity means 3 and bianity means 2, then we have a grand total of 5 (FIVE) Gods or deities or divinities, or whatever one would like to refer to them! What is it now then - a pentity??? I'm really not trying to be funny nor am I trying to poke fun at any specific belief system. I'm just trying to show the absurdity and the inconsistency and the outlandish lengths of ridiculous-ness

Yes, I’ll agree what is written in the paragraph above is ridiculous-- it is not at all what I believe and is simply a strange twisting of what I was saying. It is saying exactly the opposite of what we believe. How can a belief in ONE GOD, manifested in three personages, mean the above?

Either it’s a direct mockery of the Deity of Christ, which EGW says:

1 Cor. 8:4 says There is but ONE GOD, (One Deity or divinity)

So if there is BUT ONE DIVINITY-- it follows that both Christ and God the Father are of that ONE DIVINITY.

The anti-Trinitarian writes:
One BEING that is the ETERNAL God, the source of all life and being. The Father is God for He has NEVER had any dependency or source of His existence for He is the source of all. The trinitarian view states that all three beings of the trinity are equally the source of all life and being. If words have any meaning at all, how can this possibly be taken as a bible fact when the bible never teaches it??? Where does the bible state that there are three almighty deities?

The understanding of the Trinity does NOT teach that there are three separate ALMIGHTY DEITIES.

The trinity believes there IS ONE ALMIGHTY DEITY Comprised of three persons who are in perfect unity- ONENESS. Eternal from everlasting to everlasting. They do not work independent of each other. Nor are they derived. It is ONE DEITY, though the three persons have assumed different roles within that Deity and yes, God the Father has the “headship” role, but they are three in ONE with no superiority or inferiority but ONE. Analogies always fall short-- so I won’t use them.

BT.1906-03-01
1. The Father is all the fullness of the Godhead bodily, and is invisible to mortal sight.
2. The Son is all the fullness of the Godhead manifested. …
3. The Spirit in all the fullness of the Godhead, making manifest the power of divine grace

And yes, Christ is also the source of life-- He has LIFE within HIMSELF, He is the Creator, without Him NOTHING WAS CREATED THAT WAS CREATED. (Col. 1:16) whilst created beings only have the life bestowed upon them by God.

John 11.25
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

Col. 3.4
When Christ, who is our life, shall appear,

1 Timothy 1.1
Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, according to the promise of life which is in Christ Jesus,

1 John 5.20
And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

"YI.1898-08-04.001
"I am the resurrection, and the life." He who had said, "I lay down my life, that I might take it again," came forth from the grave to life that was in himself. Humanity died: divinity did not die. In his divinity, Christ possessed the power to break the bonds of death. He declares that he has life in himself to quicken whom he will.

DA.530.003
Still seeking to give a true direction to her faith, Jesus declared, "I am the resurrection, and the life." In Christ is life, original, unborrowed, underived. "He that hath the Son hath life." 1 John 5:12. The divinity of Christ is the believer's assurance of eternal life.

RH.1914-08-06.001
From Jesus is our life derived. In him is life that is original,--unborrowed, underived life. In him is the fountain of life. In us there is a streamlet from the fountain of life.

YI.1900-06-21.002
Not one of the angels could have become surety for the human race: their life is God's; they could not surrender it. The angels all wear the yoke of obedience. They are the appointed messengers of Him who is the commander of all heaven. But Christ is equal with God, infinite and omnipotent. He could pay the ransom for man's freedom. He is the eternal, self-existing Son, on whom no yoke had come; and when God asked, "Whom shall I send?" he could reply, "Here am I; send me."

Maranatha 302
"In him [Christ] was life; and the life was the light of men." It is not physical life that is here specified, but immortality, the life which is exclusively the property of God. The Word, who was with God, and who was God, had this life. Physical life is something which each individual receives. It is not eternal or immortal; for God, the Life-giver, takes it again. Man has no control over his life. But the life of Christ was unborrowed. No one can take this life from Him. "I lay it down of myself," He said. In Him was life, original, unborrowed, underived.

The anti-Trinitarian clarifies his position saying:
To deny the trinity view is NOT to deny the deity of the Son.

However, to say it is not denying the deity of Christ, is either bitheism, or accepting the premise of the Trinity-- For the Bible says there is only ONE DEITY and that deity alone are we to worship. God won’t say WORSHIP ONLY THE ONE DEITY, and at the same time worship a lesser Deity.

The movement against the Trinity back in the late 1700 was based on “rationalism” -- if you don’t understand it, throw it out. This has lead to making God TOO MUCH LIKE HUMANS-- This concept that a son is someone born to you--that’s the way it is for humans-- easy to understand, BUT THAT IS NOT THE PICTURE WE SEE IN THE BIBLE--

When Christ was with us-- IT WAS GOD WITH US in the person of Christ.

"You shall call His name EmmanuEL, meaning GOD WITH US."
"Wherever was the presence of His Son, it was as His own presence." SR 13

Christ said:

John 14:7-10
If you had known me, you should have known my Father also: and from henceforth you know him, and have seen him. Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet have you not known me, Philip? he that has seen me has seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father? Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me?
John 10.30
I and my Father are one.

And when Christ says He will send the Holy Spirit He says I and My Father will come to You.

When Christ returned to heaven and sent His Holy Spirit-- it is GOD WITH US in the personage of the Spirit. When one member of the Godhead is present, it is GOD WITH US in the personage of that member. That's what ONE GOD in three personages means.

All through the Old Testament we see God and Christ working-- we see two persons-- yet ONE JEHOVAH-- (and both have the NAME) Often one doesn’t know which personage is representing the Godhead in the OT.
In the new Testament it becomes even more prominent-- There are definitely TWO persons (no I’m not denying the Holy Spirit--just not focusing on that at present)
Christ has received the delegation to redeem man and in this work comes the total subordination of the Son to the Father, The Father surrenders everything into the hands of the Son who in turn, in His incarnate state has to learn obedience and subordination to His Father (Heb. 5:8) In the end the Son hands everything back to the Father and all is all in Oneness---

People now try to explain this in ultra humanistic simplicity, but the inner ONENESS of the Godhead wherein the three dwell is not after HUMAN SIMPLICITY at all:

The problem with a lot of this is that there are many versions to this concept of the Trinity and some of them are wrong-- but the basic foundation that GOD IS ONE in three personages is Biblical and taught by EGW.

Man can not penetrate the inner structure of God. “The highest intellect may tax itself until it is wearied out in conjectures regarding the nature of God, but the effort will be fruitless. This problem has not been given us to solve. No human mind can comprehend God. None are to indulge in speculation regarding His nature. The Omniscient One is above discussion (MH 429)

It is late and I must stop.
Thank-you for your time.