Various Contested Prophecies and Quotes of Ellen White
ELLEN WHITE
Various Contested Prophecies and Quotes

Time is Almost Finished
Some will be translated, while others will die
But Lucinda said Ellen White predicted...and set date after date
But Lucinda said Ellen White predicted...they would be put in prison
But lucinda said Ellen White...was into deep fanaticism


On the internet people have put together bits of information in an attempt discredit Ellen White. On this page we will explore some of the so called “shocking quotes” or “false prophecies” of E.G.White being circulated on the internet.


Time is Almost Finished
Accusation: A prophecy that never can come true?
"My accompanying angel said, 'Time is almost finished. Get ready, get ready, get ready.' . . . now time is almost finished. . . and what we have been years learning, they will have to learn in a few months." (Early Writings, pp. 64-67).

This is a very significant statement. Mrs. White was saying that the truths that she and her associates had spent five years learning would have to be learned by new converts in only a few months.

Some are looking too far off for the coming of the Lord. Time has continued a few years longer than they expected; therefore they think it may continue a few years more, ….TIME CAN LAST BUT A VERY LITTLE LONGER”. Early Writings p. 58

This was back in 1850, a lot more than “a few months” have passed and time is still not “finished”.


If these statements prove Ellen White was a false prophet then the same would apply to the New Testament, for the scriptures dwell repeatedly on the “soon coming” of Christ. Yet, that was 1800 years prior to Ellen White!

1 Cor. 7:29 But this I say, brethren, THE TIME IS SHORT; it remains that both they that have wives be as though they had none……(Is Paul here recommending it’s better for people not to marry but to work for the Lord as time is short!!)

Rev. 3:11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

Rev. 22.7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keeps the sayings of the prophecy of this book.

Rev. 22.12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

Rev. 22.20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

The above accusation is simply fulfilling 1 Peter 3.3-5 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
For this they willingly are ignorant

God consistantly tells people HE IS COMING QUICKLY. He deals with each generation as if it were the last. If people believe it-- does that make them false?

No, of course not! For each person has only their lifetime to find salvation in the Lord. "Today," God says to each individaul, "is the day of salvation". Be prepared "TODAY"!

The truth is:
The methods the antagonists use to discredit Ellen G. White will work just as effectively to discredit the Bible.
Those who follow the line of reasoning used against EGW are walking on very shaky ground as they develop thinking patterns that would just as effectively deny the Bible as truth.
The same methods that vindicate the Bible also vindicate Ellen White. Ellen White's prophecies follow the same pattern as BIBLICAL prophecies. And to me that is evidence that she is a true prophet.


Some will be translated, Others Food for Worms

“At the conference a very solemn vision was given me. I saw that some of those present would be food for worms, some subjects for the seven last plagues, and some would be translated to heaven at the second coming of Christ, without seeing death.” Spiritual Gifts. Volume 2, page 208, paragraph 2. (also to be found in Life Sketches of James White and Ellen G. White (1880 edition), page 321, paragraph 3)
There is simply one little problem with this vision: It was in May, 1856! All the people present at that conference would now be more than 150 years old! The reality is that all of them have died and have been buried. This prophecy never came true!


Are prophets given “conditional” prophecies?

What about this quote, is it to be read and considered as well?

Had the purpose of God been carried out by His people in giving to the world the message of mercy, Christ would, ere this, have come to the earth, and the saints would have received their welcome into the city of God. 6T.449

GC.458.001 It was not the will of God that Israel should wander forty years in the wilderness; He desired to lead them directly to the land of Canaan and establish them there, a holy, happy people. But "they could not enter in because of unbelief." Hebrews 3:19. Because of their backsliding and apostasy they perished in the desert, and others were raised up to enter the Promised Land. In like manner, it was not the will of God that the coming of Christ should be so long delayed and His people should remain so many years in this world of sin and sorrow. But unbelief separated them from God. As they refused to do the work which He had appointed them, others were raised up to proclaim the message. In mercy to the world, Jesus delays His coming, that sinners may have an opportunity to hear the warning and find in Him a shelter before the wrath of God shall be poured out.

The thing we must realize is that God has NOT revealed the time of Christ's coming TO ANY PROPHET!
All through the Bible it is represented as SHORT, even at the door!

No prophet ever received a revelation of the exact TIME of the second coming,
even Christ Himself, while He walked on earth as a man, DID NOT KNOW THE HOUR. (Mark 13:32)
The message has always been "watch and pray for you DON'T KNOW THE HOUR!...Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping" (Mark 13: 33,36)
In other words, every person no matter what time period in earth's history they lived in were to "watch and pray" for it might be in their life time!

We believe Christ could have come "ere this". His messages to His people sought to rouse and rally them to active service for HIM, and to sound the message to the world, and if the urgency of the message had done it's work, Christ could have come ere this.

Also consider these Bible texts:

Matt. 16.27-28 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
Verily I [Jesus] say unto you,[His disciples] There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

Notice Christ is speaking of "coming in glory with His angels" and "rewarding every man according to his works, AND THAT SOME STANDING THERE [in AD 31] would not die but see Christ coming in His kingdom.

Matt. 26.64 Jesus saith unto him, [Caiaphas] Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall you see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

Matt. 24.30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Matt. 24.33-34 So likewise you, when you shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

Now we can explain all those texts, and the same principles used to explain them will also explain EGW's position.

Firstly, the disciples all died without literally seeing the second coming of Christ.
Yet, they had a "foretaste" of it. At the transfiguration they witnessed Christ in His glory. Elijah and Moses stood beside Him. Moses was a witness to Christ's victory over sin and death. He represented those who shall come forth from the grave at the resurrection of the just. Elijah, who had been translated to heaven without seeing death, represented those who will be living upon the earth at Christ's second coming, and who will be "changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump;" when "this mortal must put on immortality," and "this corruptible must put on incorruption." 1 Cor. 15:51-53. Jesus was clothed with the light of heaven, as He will appear when He shall come "the second time without sin unto salvation." For He will come "in the glory of His Father with the holy angels." Heb. 9:28; Mark 8:38. The Saviour's promise to the disciples was now fulfilled. Upon the mount the future kingdom of glory was represented in miniature.

No, they did not live to see the actual coming of Christ to claim His kingdom, they only saw "tokens" of it. They saw the message spread, they fully believed in their hearts and minds the certainity of Christ's coming.

They experienced the fulfilment BY FAITH, not literally.

In the same way the message of EGW was a message of preparation and faith.
Indeed some at that meeting died within a few weeks-- for them the message to prepare for death was timely. Others struggled on through many trials, preaching the three angels last message of warning to the world and seeing results. Yet the vision of Christ's coming was ever reality to them THROUGH FAITH!

The New Testament is full of texts dealing with the tension between "now is" and "yet to come". (See John 5:25)

So thus we know THERE IS MORE!
Christ's prediction that there would BE PEOPLE alive who would never see death--(no not even the first death), And EGW's prediction that there would BE PEOPLE alive who would never see death, will come true.

Every generation is told that time is short, and indeed it is short for each generation as they only have their life spans to wait. Then they sleep in death till the resurrection.

YET, there will be a generation which will see the endtime events wrap up and Christ will come during their actual life span.

During that last generation, some will die, some will go through the last plagues, and some will be translated without dying even the first death.

Finally, people who have died [yes the people sitting in that room listening to EGW] who died with the hope of the third angel's message, will be resurrected in that special resurrection, some in the resurrection of life, and others in the resurrection of damnation" (John 5:29) To experience the last scenes of the unfolding drama of this earth.

At that time Matt. 26:64 will be fulfilled as Caiaphas rises to see Christ coming. But Caiaphas will not be translated into heaven, he will die again, but God's people will meet Christ in the air and join Him "in the Glory of His kingdom".


But Lucinda Said...
Accusation: Lucinda Burdick, a friend of Mrs. White in the 1840's, explains how Mrs. White often predicted Christ's return: I became acquainted with James White and Ellen Harmon (now Mrs. White) early in 1845. ... She pretended God showed her things which did not come to pass. At one time she saw that the Lord would come the second time in June 1845. The prophecy was discussed in all the churches, and in a little "shut-door paper" published in Portland, Me. During the summer, after June passed, I heard a friend ask her how she accounted for the vision? She replied that "they told her in the language of Canaan, and she did not understand the language; that it was the next September that the Lord was coming, and the second growth of grass instead of the first in June." September passed, and many more have passed since, and we have not seen the Lord yet. It soon became evident to all candid persons, that many things must have been "told her in the language of Canaan," or some other which she did not understand, as there were repeated failures.


Lucinda Burdick, wrote that from Bridgeport, Connecticut, Sept. 26, 1908, 63 years later. She was but a child in 1845, and hardly "a friend" of Ellen White. In reading Lucinda’s “accounts” one quickly recognizes that she is confusing and adding much “general” misinformation, and combining it with a brief exposure to Ellen White, and then saying her own confusion is the truth about Ellen White.

First a person must recognize that the Millerite movement involved thousands of people.
Secondly one must recognize that the great disappointment of 1844 fractured this large group of people into many divisions. Many gave up the whole message of 1844. When Ellen White received her first vision, December 1844, she and the whole group in Portland, Maine where her parents lived had pretty much given up the idea that God had led in the 1844 movement. (See WLF 21) In that first vision God showed her that He had led them in the movement and as long as they did not reject the "light behind them" and kept their eyes upon Jesus, He would lead them to the heavenly home.

Now it is true that many of the Millerites were setting repeated dates for the second coming of the Lord.
That they believed that Christ had “delayed” His coming but would come very soon is true. Yet the human longing for “a time” must not be confused with the messages given by God as HE was leading a people INTO understanding truth.

In the year 1845 there was as yet no Seventh-day Adventists as such, there were just people searching for answers. The “primary group” who were to become the leaders of Seventh-day Adventism had no published paper during this time. They didn't start publishing their "Present Truth" paper until 1849. James White's first published works were "Word to Little Flock" in April, 1847 and a single sheet containing Ellen's first two visions, in April, 1846. Neither of which specified any DATES. There were, however, papers published by other Millerites who did advocate DATES. So to say, Ellen White was “publishing“ her views in a “little shut door paper“ that Christ would come in 1845 is false. The truth is that Millerite Adventists were publishing such views quite apart from any input by Ellen White.

Thirdly, supposition that God miraculously made EGW all knowing, with mature and full understanding of all prophecy and complete knowledge of all the foundation of truths of Seventh-day Adventism in her first few visions, is pure fantasy. Ellen White was very much a human being, and one should not confuse the messages of the visions God gave her to lead them into fuller Bible study and truth, with her own human growth in understanding as she receive those messages.

All SDA doctrines came about by serious Bible Study, as the pioneers searched the scriptures to find the truth. In the year 1845 we know that many Millerites were hoping that Christ would come that October. That Ellen longed for the visions of heaven she had seen to come true at that time, is quite likely-- UNTIL, before the date even arrived, God revealed to her not to look for any SET date.
James White wrote:

It is well known that many were expecting the Lord to come at the 7th month [October by Jewish calendar] of 1845. That Christ would then come we firmly believed. A few days before the time passed, I was at Fairhaven and Dartmought, Mass., with a message on this point of time. At this time Ellen [Harmon] was with the band at Carver, Mass., where she saw in vision that we would be disappointed, and that the saints must pass through the “time of Jacob’s trouble” which was future.
Her view of Jacob‘s trouble was entirely new to us, as well as to herself.” A Word to Little Flock“, p.22
Ellen White herself wrote:
Vol.1 Testimonies to the Church page 72-73
Different times were set for the Lord to come, and were urged upon the brethren. But the Lord showed me that they would pass by, for the time of trouble must take place before the coming of Christ, and that every time that was set, and passed, would weaken the faith of God's people. For this I was charged with being the evil servant that said: "My Lord delayeth His coming."

These statements relative to time setting were printed about thirty years ago, and the books containing them have been circulated everywhere; yet some ministers claiming to be well acquainted with me, state that I have set time after time for the Lord to come, and those times have passed, therefore my visions are false. No doubt these false statements are received by many as truth; but none who are acquainted with me or with my labors can in candor make such report. This is the testimony I have ever borne since the passing of the time in 1844: "Time after time will be set by different ones, and will pass by; and the influence of this time setting will tend to destroy the faith of God's people." If I had in vision seen definite time, and had borne my testimony to it, I could not have written and published, in the face of this testimony, that all times that should be set would pass, for the time of trouble must come before the coming of Christ. Certainly for the last thirty years, that is, since the publication of this statement, I would not be inclined to set time for Christ to come, and thus place myself under the same condemnation with those whom I was reproving. And I had no vision until 1845, which was after the passing of the time of general expectation in 1844. I was then shown what I have here stated.

And has not this testimony been fulfilled in every particular? The First-day Adventists have set time after time, and notwithstanding the repeated failures, they have gathered courage to set new times. God has not led them in this. Many of them have rejected the true prophetic time, and ignored the fulfillment of prophecy, because the time passed in 1844, and did not bring the expected event. They rejected the truth, and the enemy has had power to bring strong delusions upon them that they should believe a lie. The great test on time was in 1843 and 1844; and all who have set time since then have been deceiving themselves and deceiving others.

Again in 1851 there were individuals setting a date based on "the seven year" principle (seven years following 1844) but that view was also spoken against by both Ellen White and her husband.
James White wrote:

"Some who have thus taught we esteem very highly, and love fervently as brethren, ...yet we cannot refrain from giving some reasons why we do not receive THE TIME...We do not see time in the present message; we see no necessity for it, and we do not see the hand of the Lord in it." (Aug. 19,1951)
While Ellen wrote: "I saw that some were making every thing bend to THE TIME of this next fall--that is making their calculations in reference to that time. I saw that this was wrong." (July 21, 1851)

Lucinda continues her accusations:
Once, when on their way to the eastern part of Maine, she saw that they would have great trouble with the wicked, be put in prison, etc. This they told in the churches as they passed through. When they came back, they said they had a glorious time. Friends asked if they had seen any trouble with the wicked, or prisons? They replied, "None at all."
It is quite obvious where Lucinda got this piece of confused information.

You see, Ellen White, contrary to Lucinda's charge was speaking AGAINST date setting for Christ's coming. God revealed to her that there would be a "time of trouble" BEFORE Christ would return. That is the message God revealed to her while the "Millerites" in general were setting date after date for Christ's return, her message was that they were NOT to look for ANY message based on time, there was yet prophecy to fulfilled BEFORE Christ would come that had not yet been fulfilled.
The message she taught that a great time of trouble was ahead for those who "kept the commandments of God and had the faith of Jesus", she consistantly presented for the rest of her life and it is based upon the prophetic messages of Revelation, especially Revlation 12:17, and chapters 13 and 14 etc.

Lucinda, however, presents these messages as if EGW were predicating "the time of trouble" would happen to them personally on a certain trip. This of course is a total distortion of what her message was.


Lucinda continues her accusations:
I became acquainted with James White and Ellen Harmon (now Mrs. White) early in 1845. At the time of my first acquaintance with them they were in a wild fanaticism, --used to sit on the floor instead of chairs, and creep around the floor like little children. Such freaks were considered a mark of humility. They were not married, but traveling together.
Remember, Lucinda was just a child when she met Ellen White briefly and would have been highly influenced by what others thought.

Much of Ellen White's early travels and messages were to caution AGAINST fanaticism which had invaded the "millerite" groups [There was no Seventh-day Adventist church in 1845, just the varied fragments of the Millerite movement].
What does Ellen White herself say about this fanaticism:

Early Writings page 22
At this time there was fanaticism in Maine. Some refrained wholly from labor and disfellowshiped all those who would not receive their views on this point, and some other things which they held to be religious duties. God revealed these errors to me in vision and sent me to His erring children to declare them; but many of them wholly rejected the message, and charged me with conforming to the world. On the other hand, the nominal Adventists charged me with fanaticism, and I was falsely, and by some wickedly, represented as being the leader of the fanaticism that I was actually laboring to correct.

Life Sketches pages 85-86
There were some who professed great humility, and advocated creeping on the floor like children, as an evidence of their humility. They claimed that the words of Christ in Matthew 18:1-6 must have a literal fulfillment at this period, when they were looking for their Saviour to return. They would creep around their houses, on the street, over bridges, and in the church itself.

I told them plainly that this was not required; that the humility which God looked for in His people was to be shown by a Christlike life, not by creeping on the floor. All spiritual things are to be treated with sacred dignity. Humility and meekness are in accordance with the life of Christ, but they are to be shown in a dignified way.

A Christian reveals true humility by showing the gentleness of Christ, by being always ready to help others, by speaking kind words and performing unselfish acts, which elevate and ennoble the most sacred message that has come to our world.

Now Ellen White also wrote against "cold formalism" as well as "fanatacism", thus her critics from both "extremes", by pushing to the other extreme, brought forth their misrepresentations.

As to James White traveling with Ellen White---

The way it was presented by the "critics" was that they travelled together, alone.
This was not the case.

As James White writes:
It was necessary that she should have one or more attendants. Either her sister Sarah or her faithful companion Louisa Foss traveled with her. And as neither her aged father nor feeble brother were suitable persons to travel with one so feeble, and introduce her and her mission to the people, the writer [James] fully believing that her wonderful experience and work was of God, became satisfied that it was his duty to accompany them.

And as our thus traveling subjected us tot he reproaches of the enemies of the Lord and His truth, duty seemed very clear that the one who had so important a message to the world should have a legal protector, and that we should unite our labors....[later James wrote] We were married August 30, 1846, and from that hour to the present she has been my crown of rejoicing.

Often it was a rather large group that traveled with her, as is shown here:

A visit to New Hampshire. My constant and faithful companion at this time was Louisa Foss...We were also accompanied by Elder Files and his wife, who were old and valued friends of my family, and by Brother Ralph Haskins and Elder James White. Life Sketches 77It was difficult for so many to travel, yet still, despite having several people travel with her, the critics' tongues were wagging. Thus at the age of 18, Ellen White married 25 year old James White.


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24 Oct. 17,2003