but the Goths weren't Defeated in 538, what about Totila? |
A well known and respected scholar, whom we have all respected, has, in the past few weeks presented ideas on prophecy which are a CLEAR DEPARTURE from the very foundation of our understanding of prophecy and who is starting to proclaim sentiments we have often heard from those who oppose us.
He has termed it a "refreshing, new understanding" BUT it is really NOT NEW or REFRESHING at all. We have met these things in years past and feel deeply the disappointment because one whom we have looked to as a teacher and leader, seems now to have undertaken to upset the very foundation of our prophetic understanding.
In the following pages I will present why I believe our understanding of the 1260 year period is well founded--
Paragraph's from Prof. Bacchiocchi’s letter are printed in “brown”.
The 1260 day/years
Historically, our Adventist church has interpreted this
prophetic period as representing the 1260 years of Papal domination
from 538 to 1798. Supposedly the prophetic period of the Antichrist
began in 538 when Justinian's general, Belisarius, defeated the
Ostrogoths, thus enabling the Pope to regain some of his power. The
period terminated in 1798 when Napoleon's general, Bethier, entered
Rome with a French army, proclaiming the end to the political rule
of the papacy, and taking with him the pope prisoner to France.
This interpretation poses two major problems, which thinking
Adventists have long recognized. In fact during the past few months
I have received several email messages and calls from pastors who
have asked me to help them understand more fully what really
happened in 538.
The first problem is the questionable significance of 538. We
noted earlier that Justinian's triumph over the Ostrogoths in 538
was short lived, because under their new leader, Totila, the
Ostrogoths quickly recaptured most of their lost territories. In
other words, this event did not significantly boost the power of the
Papacy, which still faced constant harassments from various rulers
for centuries to come.ENDTIME ISSUES No. 86:
"ISLAM AND THE PAPACY IN PROPHECY"
Samuele Bacchiocchi, Ph. D. writes:
I guess I was rather mystified by the fact a scholar would make generalities like the above.
First what was Justinian’s, or rather his general's, (Belisius) victory in 538? Was it "extinguishing" the Ostrogoths? No, it was the retaking of ROME (the imperial city) from the RULE of the Ostrogoths, and out from under Ostrogoth' reign, and thus placing it under ROMAN LAW-- that law which Justinian had codified just a few years earlier-- which contained the declaration that the Pope (not necessarily a specific individual pope, as there was a removal of Pope Silverius and the replacing of Pope Vigilius right then in 538) but the recognized pope, who was seated in Rome, was BY THE NEWLY CODIFIED ROMAN LAW, head of all churches and in charge of "dealing" with the "heretics".
It is true that the Goths were not defeated as a whole nation until several years later, it is true that after this victory of Belisarius in 538, the city of Rome itself was twice retaken by Totila, the new leader of the Goths. But he never ended up setting up any Empire there.
First, in 545, Totila laid siege to Rome, which held out for about a year. Belisarius, who was sent by Justinian to defend Rome, was given hardly no troops, and could not withstand the siege. Rome fell in December 546. Totila considered destroying the city, but Belisarius wrote him in protest, pointing out how it would damage his reputation if he destroyed a city of such beauty, and Totila gave up his plan and instead evacuated Rome, taking with him the senators and sending the rest of the populace into Campania.
As soon as Totila left Rome to recover other cities, Belisarius re-entered Rome, rebuilt and repopulated it and prepared it to withstand yet another siege. Totila returned with his troops and attacked, but was repulsed and had to withdraw. Belisarius was not receiving much support from back home-- Justinian was busy fighting the "new Persians". Belisarius, discouraged, went home.
In 549 Totila again attacked Rome and entered the city, but then he decided to "punish" the Sicilians and crossed to Sicily, to slaughter the inhabitants. Justinian was shocked and sent troops to get rid of Totila. Narses (Justinian's General) defeated Totila's armies and Totila was killed. This was 552-- a little over two years after he entered Rome.
It was Totila's “recapturing of Rome” which was very short lived!
According to “A Survey of European History” by Ferguson and Bruun, page 157:
THE ROMAN CODE OF LAW was IN FORCE-- IN ROME--
And that law gave the POPE the LEGAL position as head of all churches with authority to deal with all heretics.
Yes, there were lots of wars-- but the Roman code of law, THAT LAW WHICH LEGALLY DECLARED THE POPE HEAD OF ALL CHURCHES, and defender against all heretics, was established in ROME in 538, and even though suffering some political setbacks during that time, that Roman LAW was ALWAYS brought into force again and stood as THE LAW, in Rome, from 538 until Napoleon’s new CODE OF LAW replaced it 1260 years later.
Totelia’s victories were short, very short lived, Rome was RECOVERED for Justinian by Narses.
No, dominion, no new power was SET UP in Rome other then the power of the Papacy.
There was NO CHANGE in the law which decreed that now the Pope was "head of all churches" and responsible to "deal" with all "heretics".
Thus in 538, the "saints" were literally "given into his hands, at the beginning of the 1260 years, in 538.
(Main Resource: "Justinian the Great" by Tomas Fitzgerald As well as other encyclopaedias and history books.)
For more on the significence of 538 see my webpage:
The 1260 Day/Years
The second problem with the traditional interpretation is its
failure to account for the basic meaning of this prophetic period,
namely, a time in which God's people are persecuted on the one hand
and are protected on the other hand. It is evident that the
persecution and protection of the church did not begin in 538 nor
did it end in 1798.
The 1260 years identify the “power” that “scatters “God’s people”. It is NOT limited to the identification of the true church or to God's protection.
The 1260 years are consistently linked to the time period after Christ's death and resurrection when an earthly power will have primacy over God's saints and seeks to destroy them.
Daniel 7:25 He (the stout horn) shall persecute the saints of the most high and shall intend to change times and law. Then the saints shall be given into his hand for a time, times and half a time. (1260 day/years)
Rev. 12:6 And the woman (God's true church) fled into the wilderness where she has a place prepared by God, where she was nourished for 1260 days.
Rev. 12:13-14 And the dragon persecuted the woman...she flew into the wilderness...where she is nourished for a time and times, and half a time...
Rev. 13:5-6 (The sea beast) is given authority to continue for 42 months (1260 day/years) and it is granted to him to make war with the saints and overcome them.
For many days they will fall by the sword and flame, by captivity and blunder...to refine them and purify them until the time of the end, because it is for an appointed time.
And what is the appointed time of this persecution? Daniel 12:7 says it is for a time, times and half a time (1260 years) that the power of the holy people shall be shattered.
This time period of papal primacy and oppression began when Justinian's decree, declaring the pope's authority over all churches and authorizing him to deal with all "heretics" went into effect.
It ended in 1798 when Napoleon sent his general Berthier to Rome. Rome was declared a republic, the pope was imprisoned where he died, and the new pope operated under Napoleon's new laws that removed from him all former primacy. The primacy law lasted exactly 1260 years.
We desire that all peoples subject to Our benign Empire shall live under the same religion that the Divine Peter, the Apostle, gave to the Romans,... |
"The Roman people are now again entered into the rights of sovereignty, declaring their independence, possessing the government of ancient Rome, constituting a Roman Republic. |
The famous Bill No. 8, in parallel French and Italian, dated Pluviose 27 (February 15), is a formal declaration by "Citizen Alexander Berthier, General in Chief." In this he makes the announcement:
ROMAN POPULACE CASTS OFF PAPAL YOKE.
The Roman people are now again entered into the rights of sovereignty, declaring their independence, possessing the government of ancient Rome, constituting a Roman Republic.
—Bill No. 9, likewise of the same date (February 15, 1798), titled "Acte du Pepule [peuple] Souverain" (An Act of the Sovereign People) —certified and signed by three notaries, and confirmed by General Berthier—makes this clear-cut declaration:
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This was a DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE